Third Space
Diversity. Inclusion. Equity. Justice
Jen Cort is an education consultant in the areas of equity, inclusion, diversity and justice. In this podcast, Jen opens up a "third space"— a place outside our familiar home and work environments — in order that we might begin to engage in some of the provocative questions that need to be addressed. Listen in as Jen speaks with some of the leading thinkers and doers in the field.
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‘I don’t want us to think about it as ‘on-line learning’ but think of it as going into someone’s home’

Rodney Glasgow, Rohan Arjune, Diane Nichols, John Gentile, Loris Adams, Priyanka Rupani, Yvonne Adams, and Toni Graves Williamson of Glasgow group…

“Silence is the best friend of hate” Talking privilege with Dr. Eddie Moore

Dr. Eddie Moore, Jr. has pursued and achieved success in academia, business, diversity, leadership, and community service. In 1996, he started America & MOORE, LLC…

Soledad O’Brien joins Third Space and provides perspective on funding, staffing, and focusing on equity.

Soledad O’Brien is an award-winning journalist, speaker, author, and philanthropist who anchors and produces the Hearst Television political…

In this episode of Third Space Howard Stevenson and I discuss racial literacy, empowering parents, and teachers to talk about race, the impact of COVID-19 on communities of color, the health implications of racism, the recent death of Ahmaud Arberry,…

Julie Lythcott-Haims roots for humans. Humans need agency in order to make their way forward; Julie is deeply interested in what impedes us. She is the New York Times bestselling author of How to Raise an Adult, an anti-helicopter parenting manifesto…

Rosalind, a returning guest is the founder of Cultures of Dignity, a contributor and curriculum creator for the Anti-Defamation League and as a multiple New York Times Bestseller best known for being the author of Queen Bees and Wannabes: the…

Increasing incidents of Xenophobia resulting from COVID-19, Rosetta Lee, Jenifer Moore, Shari Berga, Liza Talusan discuss Asian-Black solidarity.

Rosetta Lee is an educator at Seattle Girls’ School and a consultant with non-profits, K-12 and…

Sherry Coleman is a search consultant and also a Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) consultant. She was worked with a number of school types across the country doing senior management searches and also working with schools that need DEI consultancy.

Penny Evins and Nicole Defruchard talk about women in school leadership. Penny is the head of Collegiate School in Richmond, VA and Nicole is the head of Advent School in Boston, MA.

Ken E. Nwadike, Jr., is a peace activist, motivational speaker, and video journalist known as the Free Hugs Guy online. Nwadike Jr is the founder of the Free Hugs Project, which produces motivational videos to spread love, inspire change, and raise…

Lawrence Alexander is the founding Director of Equity and Inclusion at Carney Sandoe and Associates. Alexander has spent over a decade working in college counseling and equity and inclusion at public and independent schools.

Link to his practice,…

Alicia Danyali is currently the Head of Preschool and Dean of Service Learning at The New Century School, which serves families with students age 2 through Middle School in Fells Point, Baltimore, MD. Ms. Danyali’s career has been dedicated to child…

Holiday with Friends was an interfaith evening at Friends Academy Father Hyacinth Jemigbola, Associate Pastor, St. Edward the Confessor Church (Syosset, New York Jemigbola66@yahoo.com , Isaac Badaraco pastor and church planter in the village of…

Gender roles and gender expression are changing
Halia Pratt, (elementary student), Lilly Stewart, (high school student), Tenzin Crowley (college student), Alex DeSautels (woman in her 30’s), Carol Taft (woman in her 70’s), join Jen Cort (50’s) discuss…

Turning the table, Harpeth Hall students interview Jen about equity, diversity, inclusion, and justice and why the work is so important to me.

Nic James serves Delaware Valley Friends School as the Director of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion and is a member of the Educational and Operational Administrative Teams. Nic began his career teaching English and Social Studies at the Middle School…

Reggie, Jasmine, and Larissa attended the Not In Our Town conference. In this episode, a parent, a middle schooler, and a high schooler talk about spoke about advocacy, agency, and student voice.

Debby Irving brings to racial justice the perspective of working as a community organizer and classroom teacher for 25 years without understanding racism as a systemic issue or her own whiteness as an obstacle to grappling with it. As general manager…

Self-care is always important and especially so when working with EDIJ in schools.

Dr. Liza Talusan is an educator, speaker, leader, runner, writer, life/leadership coach, and parent. With over 22 years of experience in PreK-20 education, Liza is…

Timothy (Tim) Holley, Jr. has been connected to Gilman since 1977 as a student, alumni, and for over 35 years an employee. He discusses the changing relationship with diversity in schools over the course of his career as a teacher, coach, athletic…

Jill Goodman is an executive mentor and strategist with a diverse range of skills across the non-profit and educational sectors. With over 20 years of experience in developing high-level strategy, executing and growing core programs to forward the…

Tim Wise is an antiracism educator and author of seven books, including his highly acclaimed memoir, White Like Me: Reflections on Race from a Privileged Son. He is the host of the podcast, Speak Out with Tim Wise and his essays are posted at…

Bryant K. Smith is an experienced educator who is an expert in helping people and institutions to promote equity, practice social justice and enhance relationships

Sarah Hershey is a mother, middle school humanities teacher, social justice educator, and lifelong learner. She is the founder of Courageous Change Consulting, whose mission is to build capacity among white people of diverse backgrounds to discuss,…

Brendon promotes equity and inclusion as Director of Diversity & Inclusion at the Haverford School for Boys. A veteran educator of the Philadelphia School District, Brendon has taught for over 12 years. His development as an educator has been largely…

Dr. Lana Asuncion-Bates is an experienced and enthusiastic cultural proficiency and diversity practitioner, consultant, and advocate with over 20 years of experience in the field of education. She has a demonstrated history of work in the public,…

Imana Legette discusses women of color in school leadership. Imana is the current Head of Episcopal Academy Middle School, previous Director of Diversity at William Penn Charter School with a Masters from Pepperdine University

Harper B. Keenan is currently a postdoctoral fellow in Leadership in Teacher Education at Stanford University. He will join the Faculty of Education at the University of British Columbia as the Quartermain Professor of Gender & Sexuality Research in…

Deborah Roffman joins Third Space to discuss her insights on understanding gender, gender identity, gender expression, talking about sexuality with kids and more. Deborah is one of Time Magazine’s 16 top parenting experts for the 21st century,…

Penny Evins is currently in her sixth year as head of St. Paul’s School for Girls in Baltimore and will be the incoming head for Collegiate School in Richmond, Virginia (July 2019). Penny worked with lower, middle, and upper schools before becoming…

Jamila Sams founder of “Go To Ms. Sams” and Blake Kohn, Director of National Network of Schools in Partnership share the import of student mentorships and school to school partnerships.

Blake Kohn, Executive Director of National Network of Schools…

Allowing individuality and identity to shine. Lavonna Roth focuses on students and teachers being seen and heard, being their unique selves, in order to explore and celebrate their unique identity.

Thousands of educators are exiting the field of…

Supporting identity development and underscoring the importance of affinity groups.

Phyllis is the school counselor at Sheridan School in Washington, D.C., a therapist at The Chrysalis Group, an author of Middle School Matters: The 10 Key Skills Kids…

Middle School students share how parents and teachers can broach topics such as race, gender, and technology with them in the first part of Third Space. In the second part, teachers and an administrator share their thoughts on the same topics.

Jeff Ransom begins our series focusing on athletic programs and equity, diversity, inclusion, and justice.

Jeff Ransom Is the Director of Athletics at Wilmington Friends School. Jeff was formerly was a physical education teacher, and head of the…

Vrishank “Shank” Subramani is a Senior Marketing Analyst at Merkle Inc. and an Assistant Basketball Coach at Paul Public Charter School. In his ,spare time he can be found watching and performing comedy or discussing the latest and greatest in the…

Randolph Carter and Blake Kohn offer strategies for setting up student leadership and faculty professional development conferences. Randolph is the director and founder of EastEd and Blake is the director of National Network of Schools in Partnership.

Esteemed speaker and celebrated author, Debbie Silver shares dives into the topic of helping teachers see and hear children while helping children learn to be visible and heard in ways that work for them

Peter and Paul Reynolds discuss how to help students feel seen and heard in the classroom, clarifying misunderstandings around the complexities of creativity, and suggestions for teachers to reach their students.

Joan L. Green is a licensed and certified speech-language pathologist, technology specialist, published author, speaker, and mother of 4 young adults. Her mission is to help families and professionals learn how to get the most out of their computers…

Lauren Brownlee and Melanie Cort answer the question “How can adults and middle schoolers be truly equal partners and voices in developing diversity programs? As they provide a model which can be easily replicated.

In this episode, Jennifer Bryan speaks with us about how schools can and should advance the conversation about transgender and non-binary students with practical ideas and thought provoking insights.

Dr. Bryan is known for her breadth of knowledge,…

In this episode, Jen Cort speaks with Courtney Peterson and Carolyn Miller about Equity, Diversity, Justice and Inclusion in our hiring practices.

Courtney is Director of Human Resources at Sidwell Friends School in Washington, DC, and Carolyn is the…

In this episode, Jen Cort welcomes Philip McAdoo to this Third Space. Philip served as the former Director of Equity, Justice, and Community at the Sidwell Friends School in Washington, DC.

He is a proud father and author of two books: Every Child…

Elizabeth Denevi, PhD, is the associate director of East Ed, a non-profit agency that works with schools nationally to increase equity, promote diversity pedagogy, and implement strategic processes for growth and development. She has served as both a…

Dr. Stephanie Akoumany, Founder and CEO of Bloom, helps businesses, nonprofits, and public, charter, & independent schools build communities they love through online and in-person courses, news, events, podcasts, and social media that explores…

Season 1- Episode 3 “Opening the Conversation”, Rodney Glasgow talks about how to begin conversations about diversity, equity, inclusion, and justice. Rodney is the Head of Middle School and Chief Diversity Officer at St. Andrew’s Episcopal School in…

Season 1- Episode 2 “Opening the Conversation” Rosalind and Tré talk about how to begin conversations about diversity, equity, inclusion, and justice.

Rosalind is the founder of Cultures of Dignity, the author of the curriculum Owning Up: Empowering…

Season 1- Episode 1 “Opening the Conversation” Rosetta Lee talk about how to begin conversations about diversity, equity, inclusion, and justice. Rosetta Lee works at the Seattle Girls’ School as an educator and a school-based consultant. She works…

Listen in as Jen Cort, host of Third Space, speaks with Stephen Hurley about her new podcast.