Two Drops in A Cloud of Brown ft. Saumiya Balasubramaniam

By Stephen Hurley

Host Stephen Hurley scans the education ecosystem, looking for the people and ideas that are starting to change the way we think about teaching, learning, schools and communities.

Saumiya Balasubramaniam’s new picture book, Two Drops of Brown in a Cloud of White, (Ill. Eva Campbell) is a heart-warming tale of a mother and child who have two different perspectives on the first winter in their new home. In today’s conversation, we explore those perspectives and how the imagination of a child can help to warm (if not melt) the heart of a reluctant and resistant adult.

Two Drops of Brown in a Cloud of White is published by Groundwood Books (

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Stephen Hurley
Chief Catalyst, voicEd Radio Canada

Stephen Hurley has spent nearly 40 years as an educator. He has experience as a classroom teacher, a curriculum consultant, a teacher educator and a policy observer.

He has a strong relationship with the EdCan Network (formerly the Canadian Education Association), an organization that inspired the launch and evolution of voicEd Radio Canada.

Hurley believes that stronger connections between education research, practice and policy are essential to the type of change that will be necessary in Canada's public education systems moving forward.