Brad Shreffler – How to Talk about Guns and School.

By Chris Cluff

It’s amazing how many rabbit holes one man can encounter when he’s chasing squirrels! Join Chris Cluff as he finds, explores and pushes the boundaries in education.

When I started this podcast a year ago I had little idea about the what, the how, or even my why in chasing conversations. I quickly cobbled together a list of questions that I thought an EDU podcaster would ask. And even as I struggled through my first episode with Jen Giffen @virtualgiff I realized that I would have to be more open. Open in my question frame, open in my mindset, and open to where the story takes me.
As soon as I released a little grip on the wheel, the stories emerged and took over.
In this episode I go where a story pulled me.
The horrific events of February 14th, 2018 that occurred at Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland Florida electrified me. I found my social and news feeds overflowing with content that enraged and confused me. And even though I wanted to talk with someone closer to the context I waited. I researched. I measured. I reflected and then I reached out to Brad Sheffler an educator and podcaster based out of Orlando.
This episode focusses in on how to talk about guns and schools. And honestly, I had no idea about how to do this. My questions felt awkard, my sense of clarity was fuzzy, and throughout the entire conversation I struggled with measuring my respect for the topic. Yet, I also wondered if this is what it feels like to unbox a truely pivotal topic.
I am incredibly grateful to Brad for his honest and open support of my learning.
Brad can be found @BradShreffler on Twitter. He also is the host of the Planning Period Podcast
Chasing Squirrels is on iTunes You can find me on Twitter @chrisjcluff and on WordPress at If you would like to chat on the podcast, let me know.
Song in episode: Come as you are by Blue Dot Sessions is used under a Creative Commons Attribution license ( This song has not been remixed or changed in any way.