Andrew Canle on “Conversations with Charisma” – 118

By Chey Cheyney & Pav Wander

Chey and Pav, two experienced middle school teachers from the Greater Toronto Area in Ontario, Canada, take listeners through the in’s and out’s of the field of Teaching, Learning and Leadership. Through their anecdotal, yet often comedic banter, laced with caring insightfulness, they take their audience into a conversation that is surely eye-opening and entertaining, while tackling some of the real, and ever-changing issues that exist in Education.

In Episode 118, Chey and Pav talk with Andrew Canle, an assistant principal, published author, doctoral student and small business owner from the New York Metropolitan area. Andrew talks about his newest venture – the Conversations with Charisma tabletop card games – aiming to help students build and participate in authentic conversations. This gamified way of building conversational skills has been shown to improve social and emotional learning as well as ways that students can engage with one another in more meaningful ways. Andrew helps Chey and Pav understand the ways in which he has seen improvement through his work with these game card sets. 
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To find out more about Andrew, visit his website at
Thank you to Mark Titheradge and his students at Shalvey Public School in New South Wales, Australia for providing our outro music today – a rap written, produced and performed by students at the school! Thank you for sharing this magnificent piece of student-driven work. We are so happy to provide a space to share this. Check out more on their YouTube channel:
Chey and Pav are always open and willing to engage in meaningful chatter about educational topics, just like Building Engaging and Meaningful Read-Aloud Tasks. Check it out and their other content at
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A rich discussion with several a-ha! moments throughout. Tune into this great chat, and as always, be a part of it by tagging @Staffpodcast #CheyandPav on Twitter! Tell us what you think, interact, and give us your feedback and reflections.
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